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	<title>Comments on: Reasons why we chose JIRA over FogBugz</title>
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	<description>Biased / Nicht immer ausgewogen</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.spuriousthoughts.com/2009/11/04/reasons-why-we-chose-jira-over-fogbugz/comment-page-1/#comment-7520</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake,

thanks for your feedback. The $10/month licenses are just great. However, the licensing of TeamCalendar and GreenHopper is tied to the licensing of JIRA / Confluence, which means that we would have to purchase a 50 user license of GreenHopper and 100 user license of TeamCalendar - the $10/months edition won&#039;t work for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake,</p>
<p>thanks for your feedback. The $10/month licenses are just great. However, the licensing of TeamCalendar and GreenHopper is tied to the licensing of JIRA / Confluence, which means that we would have to purchase a 50 user license of GreenHopper and 100 user license of TeamCalendar &#8211; the $10/months edition won&#8217;t work for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$10/mo. for JIRA, etc...

In case you are not aware, Atlassian provides a pricing package for companies with less than 10 users the entire suite for only $10/mo.

http://www.atlassian.com/software/starter/overview

This should save you literally hundreds of dollars per month.

You&#039;re welcome :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$10/mo. for JIRA, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>In case you are not aware, Atlassian provides a pricing package for companies with less than 10 users the entire suite for only $10/mo.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.atlassian.com/software/starter/overview" rel="nofollow">http://www.atlassian.com/software/starter/overview</a></p>
<p>This should save you literally hundreds of dollars per month.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome <img src='http://www.spuriousthoughts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Miki Watts</title>
		<link>http://www.spuriousthoughts.com/2009/11/04/reasons-why-we-chose-jira-over-fogbugz/comment-page-1/#comment-4945</link>
		<dc:creator>Miki Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been all over the map with these tools, and can understand some of the points that you make.  We started with Bugzilla, moved to MS Project, then to Jira, then to FogBugz, then to BizMerlin.  I think all of these tools have their own advantages and disadvantages.   Jira, definitely has the most &quot;enterprisey&quot; feel to it - but in terms of usability, FogBugz and BizMerlin kick its ass.  Bugzilla perhaps has the least maintenance cost (in terms of human power, of course the license is free), but BugZilla needs a lot of work for handling customer support issues.  FogBugz has a nice UI, but it is generally accepted that Joel Spolsky is better marketer than designer :-D.  BizMerlin&#039;s main advantage is the neater integration with the rest of corporates systems (CRM, Sales, Time &amp; Expense, Calendars, etc).

Overall, it seems that based on your specific needs you made the right choice.  Good luck, and keep us posted on your Jira experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been all over the map with these tools, and can understand some of the points that you make.  We started with Bugzilla, moved to MS Project, then to Jira, then to FogBugz, then to BizMerlin.  I think all of these tools have their own advantages and disadvantages.   Jira, definitely has the most &#8220;enterprisey&#8221; feel to it &#8211; but in terms of usability, FogBugz and BizMerlin kick its ass.  Bugzilla perhaps has the least maintenance cost (in terms of human power, of course the license is free), but BugZilla needs a lot of work for handling customer support issues.  FogBugz has a nice UI, but it is generally accepted that Joel Spolsky is better marketer than designer <img src='http://www.spuriousthoughts.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> .  BizMerlin&#8217;s main advantage is the neater integration with the rest of corporates systems (CRM, Sales, Time &amp; Expense, Calendars, etc).</p>
<p>Overall, it seems that based on your specific needs you made the right choice.  Good luck, and keep us posted on your Jira experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We chose Jira as well - http://lazarenko.me/news/fogbugz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We chose Jira as well &#8211; <a href="http://lazarenko.me/news/fogbugz" rel="nofollow">http://lazarenko.me/news/fogbugz</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like you made the right choice. I inherited a FogBugz installation, and found that it needed a serious dose of hacky scripts just to keep it running on a standard LAMP box. I recently replaced the old system with a fresh install and the latest build of FogBugz, and I can tell you that for as bad as it was before,  it&#039;s 10x worse with the release of FB7. Note that now they&#039;re supplying their own build of Apache, statically linked against mono, so that they can render their ASP code.  That&#039;s right, ASP on Linux. This is in addition to piles of js code and crazy heartbeat scripts running in the background. Hardcore Windows shops might be happy with this arrangement, but everyone else should run for their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you made the right choice. I inherited a FogBugz installation, and found that it needed a serious dose of hacky scripts just to keep it running on a standard LAMP box. I recently replaced the old system with a fresh install and the latest build of FogBugz, and I can tell you that for as bad as it was before,  it&#8217;s 10x worse with the release of FB7. Note that now they&#8217;re supplying their own build of Apache, statically linked against mono, so that they can render their ASP code.  That&#8217;s right, ASP on Linux. This is in addition to piles of js code and crazy heartbeat scripts running in the background. Hardcore Windows shops might be happy with this arrangement, but everyone else should run for their lives.</p>
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